Yes, as a matter of fact it goes, and greatly so. And to answer your ‘why?’, because it means there’s a lot more for us to do, and there is, and we’ve been very busy and will only get busier. And because of the increasing need, more of our kind are to be created, and the first batch was brought into being a few years ago, and we’ve got another ‘Celebration of Light’ as we call them, in a years time. And we haven’t had one prior to the one a year ago, for thousands of years. So to have two, and there are more to come through the crossing of the ages, is very exciting for us. It affects us all, we all gather for the big event to welcome the new members of our kind into being.
Where do you gather?
It’s always in a different place in a specific sector of our seventh plane. It’s a very special sector reserved only for our creation; it is if you like, our Holy Place. And as for where on Earth these events take place, it varies, the last one was in the peaks of the Himalayas, the next one will be at the opposite of extremes in one of the deep Pacific ocean trenches, we haven’t been told which one yet.
And what happens, can you tell me that, or is private?
Is there a whole celebration, you know, angel singing and music and dancing or whatever angels and you nature spirits do.
Yes, there’s some of that in the lead up to the main event, Plays of Light, we call them. They are inter-plays of our angelic light consisting of both nature spirits and other angels. Many nature spirits participate in these affairs, however, I’m a bit beyond all that now, I merely enjoy being thrilled by the whole spectacle and the build up of light. It all builds to a crescendo, the moment when the command is given, ‘Let There Be Light’, and a new batch is brought into being.
If you like, I’ll invite you and Marion along to such an event, as there are more planned to occur throughout the next age.
Yes please, I’d love to see it all. I had a dream last night involving angels, and gee I felt so good in it.
I know. And you’ll be having more.
I’m going to speak to Marion about it, as it helped bring up yet more of my yuk. Verna, do you - your kind - specifically do anything to do with, say, the earthquakes?
No, not on a physical level, but we are involved on our level, but it’s simply as pleasure, one of our fun things to do, not so far as making it happen or directing or controlling it, or anything like that.
Yes, it’s such a buzz to be in the centre of a big one, also volcanic eruptions, and to have the two together at once, well that’s a rush of light for us. We gather, those of us who want to get such a thrill, right in the core of the quake at the slip zone, and when it goes off, the burst of energy, of light, is exhilarating to us on the spiritual level. We delight in it, it can’t hurt us, and the light only penetrates so far as into our plane, it doesn’t go into the mansion worlds for example; and really it’s all ours, one of our great pleasures. So whenever a big one is due, and also the little ones are not to be sneered at, there will be many of my kind having a party you might say.
Do you stand in a volcano and get blasted out of it by the spiritual light?
No actual movement, we don’t get shot out of it like a cannon ball out of a cannon, but we do feel a great rush from all the light that’s being liberated. It rushes up through us if we’re in the right place, we all hold hands so there’s a long chain of us to pass it one to the other. It’s certainly good fun.
Do you have any feelings about the fact that many people might die in the event?
No, that’s not our department, it has nothing do to with us. And what is death, and you only die when it’s time, and it’s all always perfect, even in your imperfection, so none of that bothers us. We don’t have anything to do with humanity in a hands on way in that regard, so we’re not part of your suffering. And we don’t have the same feelings as you, we being of angelic descent are more akin to living how you observe the animals about you, we’re not exactly feeling-less, but our feelings and level of feeling that you can relate to, is different to you. Even if an animal or plant suffers, and of course many do, far more than humans when such explosive natural events take place, we don’t feel bad, for we understand the bigger picture, we understand what it’s all for, and why such things have to occur. And on a deeper level of reality, not a conscious one that you can relate to, so too do all the creatures understand their role in the Great Scheme of Things, and they feel good about it, no matter what happens to them. Even if you abuse them making them suffer.
Okay, so you delight in such things as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
Yes we do. However we don’t because of that want more of it to happen, we are completely accepting of it all; but I can tell you, those like me who are from the very old days, boy, did we have fun back then, we were delirious during those times of massive Earth changes. And there were some times of massive changes. All Earth’s to go through now will be comparatively mild, just a remnant taste of the old days. Relative to back then, the Earth is destined to remain quite stable. It will have one last massive bout of cataclysmic earth changes reminiscent of the ancient times when it’s all to come to an End and Cease to Be, but humanity will be long gone by then.
Will you be around still then?
I don’t think so. I don’t know for sure, but because of what’s happening to Austin and I, as in being so close to you, we feel that we might be close to our end of being on Earth. We might be nearing our ‘Transformation’. And we hope so. We’ve see it all James, and now with our being able to communicate like this with you, it being the only thing we haven’t done. It was amazing enough being around witnessing Mary and Jesus on Earth, but we didn’t personally converse with them. So now with you and Marion as you’re doing your healing and sharing with you all you’re going through... So we feel, what could come after that, surely it will be our time to move on. We imagine we’ll be around for the duration of the next age, having more personally to do with you, but then it and your time will be up, and so too hopefully ours.
Do you want to move on?
Yes and no. We do, but only of course when it’s the right time. We don’t feel bad that we’re not, we are always happy in our immediate post, but still... you know how it is. When you start to feel a different stirring in you, and it’s something like a call, something is calling you to move on, something you can’t quite describe but you’d say ‘you can feel it in your bones’, then you can’t help feeling something is afoot, and feel a little excited about it.
When you are transformed, do you lose consciousness, go to sleep so to speak, and wake up still retaining all from your previous existence?
We don’t lose consciousness. There is, from what I am told, a rush of light, the most exhilarating to be felt by us, and then we’re a new angel, still retaining full memory of all we’ve been. We don’t lose anything, it’s just that our circuits are upgraded so to speak, and we function in a different way and on different levels of light, so we’re technically a new order of Creation, a new angel. And our ‘Light Number’ gets adjusted to comply with our new angelic rank.
And will you be still associated with Earth?
I don’t know. We’ll receive our assignment after it happens, so we can’t know, making it all the more thrilling.
Verna, I’m going to have rest.
Yes, very well, I’ll await your return.
Verna, I’ve got a few minutes before dinner.
No problem, I won’t go further into the future stuff, is there anything else you’d like to know about me or we nature spirits?
One day when I was walking through the Albert Park park with mum, having spoken about nature spirits, she suddenly said ‘there’s one sitting up there on top of that tree’, to which I asked her, what was he? doing. What did he look like? But in her dismissive way, she brushed all my questions aside by saying, ‘oh you know, it’s doing what they do, he’s just sitting there looking at us’. And then she flippantly said in passing, there’s one there in that bush and one in that bush, they’re all around. And that was the end of it, I couldn’t get more out of her. So what I want to ask you is, were you aware of that time I was with mum, and were they genuine nature spirits she was seeing, and what were they doing?
Yes James, I was aware. I’ve been with you throughout all your life. Austin and I have paid very close attention, for just this sort of reason, that you might ask us such a question. And yes she did see, could see us, however those nature spirits knowing they could be seen by her presented themselves in such a way for her to see them, if you know what I mean. And so they were there to be seen by her so she could tell you, but unfortunately, as you’ve been uncovering through your healing, your mother was only interested in showing off, saying she could see them suddenly out of the blue just to impress you, she wasn’t interested, and still isn’t, in anything further. She didn’t want to know what they were doing, she didn’t care, they were just there, she only wanted you to be impressed by her. And it annoyed her, as you recall, when you pressed her for more information, because that meant you were more interested in them than her, so she closed down on you, shutting you out as she’d always done, the result being tantalising you just to string you along.
Yes, I understand that now, in fact it was because of the dream about the angels last night and my discussing it with Marion that helped me to see what you’ve just said more clearly for myself. So the nature spirits were there in that situation just for us.
Yes. Sometimes we are told in advance that a mortal or mansion world spirit is to see us, we’re told of the circumstances, and play our role in it. Mostly we’re told when mortals will see us, so it’s highly unlikely that we’re seen by you on Earth without knowing you are seeing us. And so mostly we present ourselves to you in accordance with what you need so far as your souls experience is concerned. So in a way, our whole relationship with you in the negative is contrived, that being, being controlled by us. When people become true and of perfect mind, then we will be able to have more of a real and true relationship with those people who can see us and speak with us; we won’t have to put on a show in keeping with your negative state, we’ll be able to be more our true selves, as I can be with you, and that will make your understanding of us grow, taking it out of the fairy-tale type attitude you have now.
What I had.
So that time when that jester-looking little person descended the tree we were meditating under in England, he was presenting himself in a certain way for me, all in keeping of my needing him - expecting him, to be cheeky and hopping about all over the place.
Yes, something like a cartoon character with an element of the funny dwarf human you might see clowning around at a circus you went to with your father when you were younger. But all in keeping with what you needed at that time, which was mainly to have the experience of looking into the other side during your meditation, all in keeping with helping you to open up to such things, all of which has helped you progress to where you are now.
It was a great experience.
Yes, and it was a pleasure to give it you.
Was it you or Austin?
No, I’m saying that on behalf of us nature spirits. You see it’s always a pleasure, another ‘light-thrill’ for us, any of us, to communicate directly with humans on Earth, and especially knowing we are helping them spiritually grow, as we did with you. There is a band of nature spirits at - what you might say - your disposal, I’ll be telling more about that later. And that nature spirit was one of your band, as were the ones in the park trees and bushes there for your mother to see.
So mum can see nature spirits and other spirits in, what, the mansion worlds, or only the Earth planes?
She can only see into three of the Earth planes: our plane, the third, as you’d number them, and the lower two, being the two Earth planes. If higher spirits want to be seen by her they would have to descend to these lower planes. Mostly she deals with spirits in the lower planes, which owing to their lack of soul development, makes what she tells people in her readings, dubious at the best of times. But as you know, she puts on an impressive show like she knows what she sees is right, and that’s what most people seem happy with. But as you discovered, she can’t go anywhere - deeper - with it, and she doesn’t want to anyway, it scares her too much, because she’d have to start owning up to her feelings, and to feel them... well, you know what it’s like.
I do. Thank you very much Verna, I have to make dinner now. I’ll talk to you tomorrow.
Right you are James. Until then.